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Anonymous asked:
I’ll never forgive the Pates for the lack of acknowledgment from the Pogues towards Jiara in S4, it was there on some level but it was mainly angst from Pope or Sarah directly trying to understand from Kie, realistically they should’ve noticed and realistically there would have been banter about it.
I get it the show isn’t about them but literally all it was took a couple of phrases thrown there in between bigger dialogues like little seeds, like when Kie and Sarah were talking sitting down on the balcony Sarah could have just thrown a “he cares, you should have seen him when they kidnapped you” or John B saying “go get your girl” instead of just “oh I see”…it didn’t take much, just small crumbs to make it clear they clocked it.
Especially when you think about how quickly they made Sarah and John B clock whatever was happening between Kie and Pope immediately after their return from the Bahamas.
IN CONCLUSION I NEED JOHN B AND POPE TO TAKE THE PISS AT JJ IN S4 FOR HOW “PUSSY WIPPED” HE IS.
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alphinias answered:
Yeah this was absolutely the thing that disappointed me the most about S3 regarding Jiara. But it’s rooted in the deeper problem with S3 overall in how they neglected the pogue dynamic for other shit.
TOTALLY agree about how easy it would’ve been to rectify. I get that JJ was doing everything in his power to avoid talking about it with anyone so I’ll give them an inch on that end, but Kie was actually dying to! Even what we did get with Sarah it was like… Sarah just glossed right over kie’s comments and went straight back to Topper/John B drama. Because that’s what we as an audience wanted to hear obviously!
Hoping they can redeem it a bit in S4 for sure but it won’t ever totally make up for the lack of it in the season where they got together.
Shocked that this pic exists and I haven’t gotten an anon about it yet. Did it kill y’all or something?
jhnygoff asked:
You definitely reminded me of some key points in season 3 that I definitely didn’t consider.
The château being burned down by topper seal the deal of him becoming an enemy. It would be EXTREMELY hard to see topper having a redemption story after that with some corny BS line like “ hey John b no hard feelings with the château, right?”💀💀💀
But just a warning 👀 if you hear Sarah’s voice starting off a epsiode with a reflective monologue of confusion and indecisiveness, then You know what’s coming 😂 let’s see if the pates intentionally screw us over with her character growth.
I agree with Jarah B being the stable couple as the other couples are still fresh and have some more exploring to do with their dynamic. I would love to see a bond created between JJ and Mike maybe closer to the end of season 4 to show Mike he can be the guy for kie and mike should give him a chance just like he was given one before he got accepted into the kooks.. we’ll seeeeee
NOWWWW
MR COUNTRY CLUB HIMSELF
Mark my words if Rafe does not become a Pogue by the end of season 4 he will die sacrificing his life for them with his final words laying in Sarah’s arms saying
“ I finally did something right”
( if I am completely wrong just forget I ever existed 🤣🤣)
LETS BE HONEST Ward created a monster with rafe. But rafe mistakes EAT HIM UP ALIVE which is why he is heavy on drugs. I still remember him crying because Barry didn’t have any coke for him one day and he freaked out. Rafe is a lunatic but not a serial killer. Which is why he went back to save Ward after putting a hit man on him. Rafe wants real acceptance! His problem is he always tries to fix his mistakes last minute.
Rafe isn’t a kook because of the luxury lifestyle. He’s a kook because of power and validation. Unlike topper who is a silver spoon fed kid with no siblings. Just a spoiled single child.
If the JJ and rafe fight happens. I think it’s early in the season. I don’t think they’ll make it a big ordeal. I feel like the Pogue gang will have bigger fish to fry by the end of the season if they’re on a new treasure hunt.
OK, please rip my response to shreds with your thoughts, I’m all ears.
Look at what this stupid little boat show has done to us 🥲
oooooh okay this is such an interesting topic, Rafe is such an interesting character to begin with, so i think his storyline in s4 is the one i’m most curious about. especially since we got nothing from him in the s3 finale for whatever dumb reason.
this is a very complex conversation to have, but to start, i don’t think i want a redemption for Rafe! and i think they kind of closed the door on him sacrificing himself for the pogues or Sarah in particular by having Ward do it in season 3. i truly don’t know how far they’re gonna go with him seeking revenge on the pogues for Ward’s death, or what they plan on doing with his character after this season, but whatever it is, i just don’t see him turning a new leaf by the end of it. the ending for Rafe i’d most like to see is him going to jail and losing all of his assets and possessions, including Tannyhill, so Pope can snatch it up and make it a museum that tells the true story of Denmark Tanny. but i’m getting ahead of myself, let’s talk about the really juicy stuff
do Rafe’s actions eat him up anymore? i definitely agree that in the first 2 seasons, he was an absolute wreck trying to hold himself together with coke and by desperately seeking Ward’s validation to keep himself occupied. but what about in season 3? he has that scene with Kie in episode 2 where he tries to paint himself as the victim for killing Peterkin, and i think that his denial truly runs that deep at this point. through spinning the story in his own mind, he’s convinced himself that he did the right thing so he doesn’t have to feel all the complicated emotions that we saw him feeling at the end of season 1 and even into season 2 in the aftermath of the murder. but in terms of Sarah, he does actually get emotional when he explains that he knows it was wrong, which is incredibly interesting to me. he clearly hasn’t done the same mental gymnastics in trying to defend himself for that, so i could definitely see him genuinely feeling remorseful, which opens up that same incredibly complex dynamic that he and Sarah have had for a while now. there’s a part of him that will always resent her for being Ward’s favorite for so long, but now we can see that there is real guilt about trying to kill her. i think that scene really captures the pure instability of Rafe’s mental state that still exists in some capacity, mainly in terms of Sarah, which we unfortunately don’t see a ton of moving forward in the season since he barely has any scenes with the pogues. in general, he actually seems pretty confident and secure, maybe the best we’ve ever seen him, in terms of his mental and emotional state. so is the guilt really bothering him that much? the coke doesn’t seem to be a coping mechanism for him like it had been before, like he was constantly using for the majority of season 2. but we just didn’t see him struggling with his past actions in season 3, it was much more about his present and especially his future.
but for season 4, i’m definitely expecting a return to the more unstable side of Rafe as he plots revenge. who will he target in particular? who does he think is most responsible? will he choose to leave the other pogues out of the crossfire? if he gets the chance to kill Sarah again, would he take it? if he really was remorseful at the beginning of season 3, has that been overtaken by rage by the beginning of season 4? the year and a half time jump makes this much trickier cause maybe he’s been trying to keep his mind off of it and do his own thing and resist the urge to get revenge but when he hears about the pogues getting recognition for their findings, it sends him off the deep end again? or has he been stewing the entire time? has the time given his rage the chance to simmer down a bit or has it only boiled over into something worse? now that he has the blessing of his father, which is the only thing he’s ever really wanted, what are his motivations? how will he shift his way of thinking now that there’s no more Ward to aspire to or to spite, and how will his mental state fare now that he believes that the pogues have taken away any opportunity he might’ve had to mend his relationship with his father?
there’s truly so many things to consider and countless different avenues that his path could take, and i really do not know what is most likely at this point!! Drew hasn’t even gotten to set yet so there’s absolutely no bts to speculate about either. personally, i love Rafe as a character and i don’t wanna see him killed off, and like i said before, although he expresses remorse in 3x02, i’m not sure if it’s gonna be enough moving forward. i’ve always been interested in his character and have never shied away from the fact that Ward absolutely aided in fucking him up for life, BUT i just don’t know if Rafe himself thinks he needs redeeming. and i especially don’t know if he’ll be thinking in that way in the aftermath of Ward’s death.
but really, who knows???? i’m voting squarely against a redemption or any kind of sacrifice, but god, i am so so so intrigued to see where the pates take him.
this was really fun to think about and i could probably ramble on for way way way longer, but this is long enough already!!! thanks for sparking up the discussion! ☺️
happymagicbee asked:
Season 3 recap was *chef's kiss* I was so giddy throughout the entire episode! You put so much love into the podcast and it really makes it feel like talking with a friend 💜
I thought about a few stuff that I think will be fun and interesting
- Sarah and jj's friendship. I am a huge cambank fan and obsess over any crumb we get. They have really good dynamics and I totally agree, we need more of them and more friendships in general
- I wonder if we will get to see Rose and Wheezie again
- they were very focused on fathers in the first 3 seasons do you think we'll get to hear more or even see a mother?
- now that Topper really has gone to the dark side he teams up with Rafe (and maybe Barry gets a bit jealous 😏 i dont think he really will but it's fun to think about)
-and Cleo, I wish we got to know Cleo more this season. So far she's been the tough one and like you said about seeing a scene mirroring the hottub scene with jj being there for kie, seeing another side of cleo would have been nice. We got a glimpse in the last episode but we need moreee
Thank you so much for doing this! I love listening to you talk about the boat show 🧡
ahhh thank you so much!!!! i’m so glad you enjoyed listening! ☺️
i’m so glad i’m nowhere near the only person who sees the potential in cambank, like literally everyone in the fandom is either obsessed with that dynamic or is at least interested in it. give the people what they want pates!!!!! i know they have someone lurking in the tags on social media so there’s no way they haven’t come across the edits about JJ and Sarah being so similar in so many ways. my only fear is that they’ve been scared off by the theories that they’re actually siblings, which i personally never want to happen in the show, and it seems like the pates feel the same way since Maddie Cline keeps bringing it up in interviews. but they can so easily avoid the sibling thing and just write more scenes with them together!!! i really thought that season 3 would’ve been the perfect time since they were both struggling with being back in the obx and they literally both have a tendency to run from vulnerability and hurt people they love in the process like hello????? god i will forever believe that if JJ had been at his house in episode 6 when Sarah goes there, then she wouldn’t have cheated with Topper and that’s exactly why the pates refused to give it to us. they literally chose stopper over cambank and i’m disappointed but not surprised! sorry this was such a long rant out of nowhere aljdhjkahd but yes, more cambank in s4, i’m starting the petition now
speaking of Topper, i’m gonna move down to that bullet point real quick and just say that i actually think there might be some more potential for comedic moments if Topper seriously starts hanging out with Rafe and Barry like COULD YOU IMAGINE???? the dude couldn’t handle the pogues, i think he’d shit his pants if he was in the same room as the local drug dealer. idk i think i said in the episode that i didn’t want Topper joining forces with Rafe, but if he’s very much on the sidelines and is made fun of by the writing the entire time, then i will absolutely take that. although i’ve said this before and i’ll say it again, Topper continuing to even speak to Rafe, much less still being friends with him, after knowing everything that he’s done is so transparent to me. his attitude toward him in season 2 was absolutely bizarre to me, and season 3 was even weirder, like does he really hate Sarah that much that he’s gonna take advice from and be swayed by the person who tried to drown her?????? i know he was in a very emotionally vulnerable spot, but the fact that he doesn’t put up much of a fight against Rafe when he’s starting his spiel about Sarah just shows me that Topper has some underlying respect for him which is just so gross. but whatever, if the pates are actually gonna start committing to Topper not being the good guy that they tried to convince us that he was, then it finally makes sense for him to be able to excuse Rafe’s bullshit and be buddy buddy with him again. maybe Topper will actually be a consistent character for once now that he’s on the dark side! let’s have him sulk in the corner while Rarry does their thing 🥰🥰
as for the other points, i’m gonna save those for the next podcast episode!! thanks so much for sending them in and for listening!!! 💕
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